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TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): I mean I guess the 30,000 foot question is, can you be surprised that when you change a society as old as a European society, or even one as old as ours, completely through immigration in a short period of time, that some people won’t like it? And that there will be a backlash against it? Does that surprise you?
SASHA POLAKOW-SURANSKY: People like David Duke and Richard Spencer have emerged into the public square. We need to have a debate about immigration in this country, and I think you and I agree about that, but David Duke should not have any part in that debate.
CARLSON: But he doesn’t, actually. What you’re doing with fear-mongering like this is shutting — is shutting down that debate.
POLAKOW-SURANSKY: Tucker, what happened in Charlottesville? What happened in Gainesville a few days ago, when people fired into a crowd of protesters? Doesn’t that scare you? Isn’t that a threat to our country and democracy?
CARLSON: Well what — I mean, I guess what you’re looking at is a completely myopic picture of what is actually happening. You’re seeing a lot of drama, because there’s massive social change in this country, it’s coming from all directions, and some of the directions are not even possible to understand.
But it’s not as simple as the rise of white nationalism, it’s that you get a volatile society when you change it overnight, and you don’t give people a chance to weigh-in on whether they like it or not. Like, it’s really simple.